Proviron vs. Clomid. What's better? What's the difference?By wingerMarch 22, in Steroid and Testosterone information. I copied and clomod this. If dosages are kept sane, Clomid wouldn't be needed -- even if it worked well, which it doesn't. For more effective methods steroid injection arthritis thumb proviron vs clomid excess estrogen in check, read on. At one time, Proviron was proviron vs clomid a valid choice as an anti-estrogen agent until some of the sophomoric steroid students argued that it didn't have any direct anti-estrogenic properties.
Proviron instead of Clomid/Nolva PCT
By winger , March 22, in Steroid and Testosterone information. I copied and pasted this. If dosages are kept sane, Clomid wouldn't be needed -- even if it worked well, which it doesn't. For more effective methods of keeping excess estrogen in check, read on. At one time, Proviron was deemed a valid choice as an anti-estrogen agent until some of the sophomoric steroid students argued that it didn't have any direct anti-estrogenic properties.
True, but it still looks as if it's the best choice if you feel the need to guard against estrogen build up. It does so because DHT acts as a gyno antagonist. Yet another thing that has been oddly overlooked. Even when DHT is applied topically it's been shown to reduce gyno in cases where the gyno hadn't been a chronic condition. Beyond the direct effect of DHT, Proviron has distinct benefits, the first being that as a derivative of DHT it isn't capable of forming estrogen, yet it has a much higher affinity for the aromatase enzyme which converts testosterone to estrogen than does testosterone.
That means administering it with another aromatizable compound will prevent estrogen build up due to the fact that DHT binds to the aromatase enzyme so strongly. There's also been some suggestion that Proviron may downgrade the actual estrogen receptor, thereby making it twice as effective at reducing circulating estrogen levels.
It makes sense that the use of Proviron is a more practical and rational method of dealing with the possibility of excess estrogen than the aforementioned method of attempting to add a weaker estrogen in the hopes that it will prevent aromatization. In other words, the World Anabolic Reference was right when it stated; "Proviron cures the problem of aromatization at the root while Nolvadex simply cures the symptoms.
Proviron in moderate doses has been shown to be remarkably safe and free of side effects in most men. If you must use an anti-estrogen, Proviron is the way go. I dont think I will use the proviron unless I need it for labido reasons. But I still feel like my pumps are bigger than normal. I might have to wait a few more days to start my pct. I dont want the proviron in any way slowing my hpta recovery.
I a using proviron at the moement - reason being is that I don;t normaly run anti e's as I have yet to get problems from gyno. However I read some info on SHBG and how proviron 'frees' testosterone so u get more bang for the buck PCT or anti-e's whatever you want to call them Guys I was told recently that prov and abombs are the only aas that have a proven link with liver tumors with prolonged high usage obviously.
Also agree with the fact that prov and nolva are better for anti e during the cycle but proviron isnt a pct aas William Llewellyn also argues in favour of nolva over clomid pct I use only nolva pct now That is the author. That guy has great articles. Not many floating around but that guy is a smart cookie. But, Dont know if it is concidence but I got some acne and I suspect it was from the proviron as it was on my face and I dont get acne. I mean not just an acne but the kind that are lumps not zits.
Got like 2 or 3 on my face some on my back and on my shoulder. I am not a big fan of proviron but I am going to take a tab every other day probably all during my next cycle. Well not unless I get massive acne then I am not going to do that: Dose, I read that guys take from 25 to mgs a day, but some guys take that off cycle to mantain that hard look and it does tend to not let you hold water.
Me, I dont do well with alot of androgens floating around in my system and it is not cheap to use either. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Sign up for a new account in our community. Already have an account? Posted March 22, William Llewellyn touches upon this in Anabolics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. Posted March 23, Posted May 2, Guys I was told recently that prov and abombs are the only aas that have a proven link with liver tumors with prolonged high usage obviously does anyone know if there is any truth in this?
Anadrol, yes proviron, no. That is what I heard. Posted May 4, I do know a HRT Dr. But for me I am going to use both: Better safe than sorry. Posted May 8, Whats the dosage though of proviron?
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