Primoteston depot mexicoWiki Research Mission Statement Donate! Sustanon vs Testosterone Enanthate? Results primoteston vs sustanon 250 to 16 of So im gonna be starting a suwtanon soon D-bols, Winstrol pct needed PCT etc and for a bulking cycle i was curious what would be better and what do you guys like. Test enth or Sus?
Sustanon vs Testosterone Enanthate?
Wiki Research Mission Statement Donate! Sustanon vs Testosterone Enanthate? Results 1 to 16 of So im gonna be starting a cycle soon D-bols, Trenbolone PCT etc and for a bulking cycle i was curious what would be better and what do you guys like. Test enth or Sus? They say sus causes less water retention but everyone complains about bloating, dont really udnerstand what they mean but that if its not retention.
Ive ran a cycle before of test and had fantastic results but with the steep prices here in Aus im a bit iffy about just jumping to trying sus without knowing how it compares to test enanthate Any comparisons would be great! Last edited by Montay; at That shit is outdated and it's much better to use a single ester test.
And you are correct, you don't ever want to mix nolva with tren or any other 19nor for that matter. There are dozens of reasons as to why sust is a very poor choice in the BB community. I've posted so many threads as to why sust sucks Every BBer in the world knows the name.
But is it a good choice for BBers? Sustanon was originally designed and formulated by Organon as a timed-release compound used for androgen replacement for hypogonadic males, HRT, and all the other uses where androgens are indicated. The difference being that Sustanon sustained release was designed to be administered once per month. Would anyone consider stacking two forms of esterified test in a single cycle? For example, would you combine propionate and enanthate?
If so, how would you do it? Would you take 30mg or propionate every other day or twice a week along with mg of enanthate at the same time? Well not only are you doing that with sust, but with FOUR esters, not just two. Testosterone is testosterone whether your body cleaves it from a short molecule or a long molecule. The reason for this is simple. The larger the molecule, the more carbons are added which increases the total weight of the molecule. So what esters are we dealing with in Sustanon?
It is no coincidence that each ester is roughly twice the quantity of the one before it nor is it coincidental that each half life is approx. Still beyond this article. Moving on… I decided to experiment with Sustanon after receiving a fairly large quantity. Even though I had plenty, I was still thinking greedily and wanted to get the most out of my testosterone dollar. I started with the twice-a-week approach. I wanted to know what had gone wrong.
During the first week, all that had taken effect was the prop and phenylprop. And mg total out of mg is all that my system saw. Throw two amps in the trash. The second week, probably not much different and had used 4 amps mg. By the third week I had the flu. Not exactly a surprise with all the HPTA suppression and unstable test levels. Well, there you go. So not long after that I moved everything to the all to common every-other-day EOD approach.
This is a shotgun approach! If you had propionate and enanthate would you just keep dosing until something worked? I think we can do much better. SO… how well did it work? I wanted to sleep all the time. I had a runny nose. Two different blood tests during this time proved that I had almost twice the free test in my system as the blood test a week later. By this point, my great buy was turning into a great waste. I took 2 months off, did a fairly aggressive PCT and started planning my next cycle.
Here is where it seemed to all come together. I decided to try taking Sustanon as Organon intended, but in BBer amounts. This meant using it less frequently but using larger doses. Using it as a SUSTained-release product.
This meant 4 amps or mgs. That gave me a starting dose of mg propionate 30mg x 4 and instead of taking the next dose of propionate, I knew I could just relax knowing that as the propionate fell off, the phenylpropionate would begin and as the phenylpropionate fell off, the isocaproate would begin, etc, etc.
This worked phenomenal and I began the cycle figuring on every two weeks one decanoate half life. In reality, I played with this until I found a sweet spot of 8 days approx. This gave me testosterone levels that remained stable throughout the cycle and at levels that were good for the results I wanted. You may need to adjust this time period to suit your physiology. If I were to ever use Sustanon in a cycle again, which I doubt since there are less expensive, more stable compounds available, I would use it as intended in BBer amounts.
I would do mg once every 8 days. This would allow for it to take immediate effect and with a few additional amps of propionate, you could use it with predictable stability right up until a few days before starting PCT. This dosing regimen, in my opinion, combined with equipoise or nandrolone would be a very productive cycle. Given the choice, I would still stick with enanthate. The injections are usually painless, the stability is high, the half life is fairly long.
Did you guys also know that sust is now widely used for TST? Female-to-male transsexual supportive therapy Before initiating Sustanon for female-to-male transsexuals, specialist assessment should be undertaken, including psychiatric assessment. A complete personal and medical history should be taken. During treatment, periodic check-ups are recommended of a frequency and nature adapted to the individual. The following should be monitored: In patients with a personal or family history of breast cancer and with a personal history of endometrial cancer, careful monitoring should be undertaken.
Subject to specialist advice, hysterectomy and bilateral oophorectomy should be considered after months of testosterone treatment, to reduce the possible increased risk of endometrial and ovarian cancer.
Continued surveillance is required to detect osteoporosis in patients who have undergone oophorectomy, as testosterone may not fully reverse the decline in bone density in these patients. Continued surveillance is required to detect endometrial and ovarian cancer in patients on long term treatment who have not proceeded to hysterectomy and bilateral oophorectomy.
Sustanon is used in testosterone replacement therapy for male sexual problems for example: It is also given to patients to induce masculinisation in female-to-male transsexuals. Sust should only be taken by those who know exactly what they are doing and should only use it in HIGH doses taken ED for best results. Many people have had great success with it, Robert is a prime example. But he knows his shit and knows exactly what he is doing.
If there is something you don't understand, let me know and I'll try and clear it up as best as I can for you. Oh, and all you need is clomid for PCT. I don't see HCG in your program, I suggest adding it as well Beautiful thanks heaps mate. I was considering chucking HCG in there but very iffy as i heard of desensitising your testes due to overdosing on it and everywhere i read suggests different dosages.
Ill take your advice mate and seek it out! Thanks Par, best of luck Montay! So what do you suggest doing with the HCG i didnt fully understand what you meant and should gyno occur should i run arimidex? And has anyone used T-mix by Global Anabolics?
I was offered that but sounds just about the same as sustanon except a bit stronger. Originally Posted by Montay. Doesnt Adex compromise gains though if used during a cycle?
What dosages would you suggest. Originally Posted by ghij Love is like a butterfly. It goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. Last edited by VictorZ06; at Done a two and a half week cycle on winstrol.
It worked great, gave my muscles energy and kept all my gains. Went up about 8lbs of pure muscle. Taking 10mg oral a day, sometimes